[pdxlefty]

nervousxtian, on Nov 21 2009, 01:26 PM, said:

They should get permission to use his pic from Portland Monthly when they showed off his tattoo.

edit: this one: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ik1aJPW6Lm0/SX9h...edChefs_001.jpg

As an eater I love his food; as a woman I hate his tattoo.

[polloelastico]

pdxlefty, on Feb 2 2010, 03:17 PM, said:

nervousxtian, on Nov 21 2009, 01:26 PM, said:

They should get permission to use his pic from Portland Monthly when they showed off his tattoo.

edit: this one: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ik1aJPW6Lm0/SX9h...edChefs_001.jpg

As an eater I love his food; as a woman I hate his tattoo.

If you're going to objectify women, I suppose there are more offensive (and less clever) contexts. But I'm not a woman (though I play one in our household) and I don't have tattoos so I can't say either way.

[Joisey]

Man did he drop a bunch of weight. That tattoo is pretty funny, but it takes balls to have it in this town, especially where it is displayed. Good for him on both accounts.

[nervousxtian]

pdxlefty, on Feb 2 2010, 03:17 PM, said:

As an eater I love his food; as a woman I hate his tattoo.

Seriously? Really? Do you search for things to be offended by?

[Dragondazd]

Quote

Seriously? Really? Do you search for responses to be offended by?

At any rate, don't hate his tattoo, hate his visual aesthetics!

[vj]

Go Dragondazd!

I don't really care for the tat either -- and I also think he's too thin. For me. But he still cooks for me... at least in the culinary sense.

But I'm just imagining how well a tattoo of a naked guy labeled with cuts of meat would go over.

[pdxlefty]

nervousxtian, on Feb 2 2010, 07:24 PM, said:

pdxlefty, on Feb 2 2010, 03:17 PM, said:

As an eater I love his food; as a woman I hate his tattoo.

Seriously? Really? Do you search for things to be offended by?

Nope. I'm actually pretty easy going. I just don't think it's cool to equate a woman's body parts with pieces of meat.

[Joisey]

pdxlefty, on Feb 2 2010, 09:17 PM, said:

nervousxtian, on Feb 2 2010, 07:24 PM, said:

pdxlefty, on Feb 2 2010, 03:17 PM, said:

As an eater I love his food; as a woman I hate his tattoo.

Seriously? Really? Do you search for things to be offended by?

Nope. I'm actually pretty easy going. I just don't think it's cool to equate a woman's body parts with pieces of meat.

We're all pieces of meat.

As far as a guy broken down into primal cuts? Cool, although it could be problematic for a guy like Greg Oden. He might need both arms for that ink.

[nervousxtian]

It's a pin-up girl, and he's a chef. Oh, nevermind... I think it'd be a cool tat if it was a guy, but it'd be a little strange for a hetero male would have a pin-up guy with the primal cuts.

I just think it's funny that someone would jump to a conclusion that it's somehow degrading to women... if it was a man, no man would care.

[Amanda]

"I just think it's funny that someone would jump to a conclusion that it's somehow degrading to women... if it was a man, no man would care."

Methinks, kind sir, that you are definitely not a woman.

I like his flames, but ignore the woman tattoo on his other arm, gaze dreamily at his current hotness (though I always loved his previous round, furry teddy bear self just as much, and salivate just thinking about every single meal I've ever had at Toro Bravo and even some at (my personal brunch hell) Simpatica when he was at the helm there.

Best regards,

Amanda

[ExtraMSG]

I don't know. I'm no bleeding heart liberal, regularly objectify women (ie, reduce them to their sexuality/attractiveness), and still feel uncomfortable with the tattoo and would never consider it for myself. It's one thing to have an attractive woman on your arm and another to portray them as merely meat and imply that they're something that could be cut up into parts, like a butchered animal. While I don't think objectifying women is degrading to women, I kind of think the tattoo is. He may not intend it to be so, but I can definitely see how it would be interpreted as such. (Then again, I thought it was weird my wife would take my name when we were married and she didn't until it just got annoying dealing with taxes, etc.)

btw, I'm going to split this off.

[polloelastico]

Has anyone considered that it's not even an objectification of women at all and he's simply a cannibal? Occam's Razor and all that.

[ExtraMSG]

It would explain the weight loss. It's probably not easy finding people to eat that won't raise suspicions.

[Joisey]

Amanda, on Feb 3 2010, 07:49 AM, said:

though I always loved his previous round, furry teddy bear self just as much

How YOU doin'?

[Kristi]

Joisey, on Feb 3 2010, 11:11 AM, said:

Amanda, on Feb 3 2010, 07:49 AM, said:

though I always loved his previous round, furry teddy bear self just as much

How YOU doin'?

Good one!!

[pyrofemme]

I'm a lady and not bothered by it. I might feel differently if it were on my husbands body, I can't say for sure. Remembering the first time I saw it, I thought "clever" not "wow, that's degrading".

[BigDaddy]

ExtraMSG, on Feb 3 2010, 10:43 AM, said:

It's probably not easy finding people to eat that won't raise suspicions.

I don't know if they'd raise suspicions, maybe a little gas. Repurposing some folks as long pig, though, is an idea worth re-exploring.

As for the tat in question, I don't care for it, but hell, it's his body and he's old enough to deal with the repercussions. It sure as hell isn't going to be my next ink, but I'm offering a bounty for the person who finds me a good jpg of the Madonna of Czestochowa.

[Jill-O]

BigDaddy, on Feb 3 2010, 03:55 PM, said:

It sure as hell isn't going to be my next ink, but I'm offering a bounty for the person who finds me a good jpg of the Madonna of Czestochowa.

Would you settle for Ciccone in black face?

Or how about this? http://www.bagnewsno...sacrilege_.html

;o)

[nervousxtian]

pyrofemme, on Feb 3 2010, 02:23 PM, said:

I'm a lady and not bothered by it. I might feel differently if it were on my husbands body, I can't say for sure. Remembering the first time I saw it, I thought "clever" not "wow, that's degrading".

That was my thought, I thought it was kind of clever. I didn't think it had any more meaning then combining two different things, the standard pinup hipster tattoo with the chef/butcher side of his life.

I never looked at it as meaning he thought women were a piece of meat. That's jumping to a conclusion about someone without them saying a word.

[nagrom]

I first thought clever. But I've also met his wife on numerous occasions and don't imagine she'd be one to find it offensive. I suppose other people could find it offensive if they cared enough about someone's ink to bother.